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kwakkwak · Apr 15, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Hi i have a question like when you have found a chaos axe with a health +30 mod but you still dont know it cause you didnt identifie it, and you use it to fight, will you have the + 30 hp or not? cause if you have, i'd say never buy unid chaos axes cause they are always tested on the +30hp mod

SnoopJeDi · Apr 15, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Yes, this is how botters test it.

Phaern Majes · Apr 15, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I'm almost positive that, yes you will. In fact that why I never buy unidentified weapons. Because people can test them that way to see if they should id them or not. If its good they id it and sell it for alot more, if its bad they don't id it and sell it for like 15k saying that you might get something good (even though they know you won't).

EDIT: Beat too it :S

Finkis · Apr 15, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Is there any way I can test if an item has 15^50 or anything else besides a health mod?

Evilsod · Apr 15, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Yeah, find yourself an enemy and go kill it. Just compare the damages with another 15^50 item (not customised) and see, if its the same then its either 15% always and a negative or 15^50. So take your health down low and try it again. You could get mistaken for sundering though so don't rush.

fiery · Apr 15, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Go outside and equip it to see the fortitude mod.

Finkis · Apr 15, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

I thought the fortitudes also work in town...

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 16, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

That works in town also, yes.

Pretty much any base mod can be tested for. Start with a clean, max damage weapon and compare the Unid'd item's damage to it. If you notice no difference, use a stance. If still no difference, enchant yourself. There are also mods like "15% vs hexed foes," and "20% while hexed." Just pick a low-level enemy that casts hexes to test for the while hexed mod. Cast a hex of your own on an enemy to test if it has the 15% vs hexed foes. But if you don't notice a dmg+ x%, or +HP, you might as well ID it anyway.

Finkis · Apr 16, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

My fellblade does more dmg when I'm below 50%, so I know its a below 50 mod. Should I still just keep it unid? Or is that mod gonna get me more then 30k?

Arkantos · Apr 16, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

What about runes? I see people saying like "WTB unid sup vigor" and such.

Akuma · Apr 16, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

They buy unid runes so they can iden and unlock it for pvp

Evilsod · Apr 16, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Really isn't any point tbh. Just play the damn thing and unlock it yourself. It'd only take an hour at most in RA.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 16, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody Death

What about runes? I see people saying like "WTB unid sup vigor" and such.

If you salvage the armor, you get an unid rune. The shape is distinctive for certain professions and since Vigor isn't class-based, you know right away if you've got it.

kwakkwak · Apr 16, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

wow cool you can test them, im gonna do it to

, but the 15^50 damage mod seems hard to test since damage is 15-22, so that is random, or should you look if your damage goes above 22?

Arkantos · Apr 16, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwakkwak

wow cool you can test them, im gonna do it to

, but the 15^50 damage mod seems hard to test since damage is 15-22, so that is random, or should you look if your damage goes above 22?

What im thinking to do is fight armor 100 with a 15-22 wep (no dmg mods) and a armor 100 with 15-22 unid to see if theres a mod on it

OrangeArrow · Apr 16, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

wildblow is your friend

Gildor Took · Apr 16, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51

is there a ranger skill that results in a critical hit?

Apr 15, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#1
kwakkwak Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006	Unidentified stats Hi i have a question like when you have found a chaos axe with a health +30 mod but you still dont know it cause you didnt identifie it, and you use it to fight, will you have the + 30 hp or not? cause if you have, i'd say never buy unid chaos axes cause they are always tested on the +30hp mod

Apr 16, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01	#8
Rayne Nightfyre Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Acolytes of Lyssa [AL] Profession: Me/A	That works in town also, yes. Pretty much any base mod can be tested for. Start with a clean, max damage weapon and compare the Unid'd item's damage to it. If you notice no difference, use a stance. If still no difference, enchant yourself. There are also mods like "15% vs hexed foes," and "20% while hexed." Just pick a low-level enemy that casts hexes to test for the while hexed mod. Cast a hex of your own on an enemy to test if it has the 15% vs hexed foes. But if you don't notice a dmg+ x%, or +HP, you might as well ID it anyway. Last edited by Rayne Nightfyre; Apr 16, 2006 at 12:04 AM // 00:04..

Apr 15, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50	#2
SnoopJeDi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Saved By My Pinchers of Peril Profession: R/N	Yes, this is how botters test it.

Apr 15, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#3
Phaern Majes Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anywhere but up Guild: The Panserbjorne [ROAR] Profession: R/Mo	I'm almost positive that, yes you will. In fact that why I never buy unidentified weapons. Because people can test them that way to see if they should id them or not. If its good they id it and sell it for alot more, if its bad they don't id it and sell it for like 15k saying that you might get something good (even though they know you won't). EDIT: Beat too it :S

Apr 15, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#4
Finkis Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: FaRm Profession: W/Mo	Is there any way I can test if an item has 15^50 or anything else besides a health mod?

Apr 15, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33	#5
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Yeah, find yourself an enemy and go kill it. Just compare the damages with another 15^50 item (not customised) and see, if its the same then its either 15% always and a negative or 15^50. So take your health down low and try it again. You could get mistaken for sundering though so don't rush.

Apr 15, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#6
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Go outside and equip it to see the fortitude mod.

Apr 15, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#7
Finkis Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: FaRm Profession: W/Mo	I thought the fortitudes also work in town...

Apr 16, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02	#9
Finkis Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: FaRm Profession: W/Mo	My fellblade does more dmg when I'm below 50%, so I know its a below 50 mod. Should I still just keep it unid? Or is that mod gonna get me more then 30k?

Apr 16, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12	#10
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	What about runes? I see people saying like "WTB unid sup vigor" and such.

Apr 16, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21	#11
Akuma IRC W H O R E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration Guild: Yale University [Snow] Profession: W/	They buy unid runes so they can iden and unlock it for pvp

Apr 16, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24	#12
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Really isn't any point tbh. Just play the damn thing and unlock it yourself. It'd only take an hour at most in RA.

Apr 16, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15	#14
kwakkwak Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006	wow cool you can test them, im gonna do it to , but the 15^50 damage mod seems hard to test since damage is 15-22, so that is random, or should you look if your damage goes above 22?

Apr 16, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32	#16
OrangeArrow Flame Bait Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mass Profession: Mo/Me	wildblow is your friend

Apr 16, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#17
Gildor Took Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia, 3rd rock from the sun Profession: Mo/	is there a ranger skill that results in a critical hit?